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You're committing a logical fallacy here by assuming that the 2-line C/P messages have a better response rate. There are a lot of people who will get responses to "Hey, how's it going? " But there are a lot of people who get better results with a more meaningful conversation starter. (secretly wanted to anyway)Out of 17 sent messages, 7 returned. This comes down to 6 relationships from the internet over the past 5 years of active internet dating.Those women were obviously attracted to you and would've replied to a thoughtful message as well. I only write the "better" messages if there profile has something interesting/creative to write back about. I send out very few messages and make sure they reference their profile in some way.So since June I've sent out 68 messages and have had 16 girl's respond which is a 23.5% response rate. Also, every time I attempt to write a serious well thought out message pulling things from there profile etc I almost never get a response.

But there have been times when I just want to fill my calendar, so I write more messages, less selectively. If you want a general sense of where you fall, OK Trends is useful. I agree with you OP long messages rarely ever work for me. If they don't, it's a good indication that the person wouldn't have responded anyway. I never kept track of my response rate, but should have. I'm fairly picky about whom I message though so it wasn't a very big pool.Make a list of his qualities and don't limit yourself to physical attributes- personality traits and details about his lifestyle (is he out, closeted, curious) are very important.You can be very specific ("My guy is 28 years old") or you can use ranges ("My guy is between 28 and 34 years old").Majority of men on the net browse around aimlessly, not knowing what they are looking for; waiting for an ambiguous Mr. Of course, we're all seeking a good man, but what kind of man?The idea of "hot" is always in the eye of the mouse clicker.

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